Protesting for father's rights

Harry Sullivan
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TRURO - Shawn Putnam of Glenholme at left and Paul Fisher of Bass River joined Jeff Harrington of Upper Stewiacke for a peaceful protest on Friday near the family courthouse building on Prince Street in Truro.

Father's protest

 The protest was held in an effort to bring attention to what the three men say are lopsided laws regarding a father’s rights. While the system was initially designed to protect against dead-beats dads, the men say they believe that court decisions have taken it too far in the opposite direction, enabling some mothers to abuse the system of child support and access while fathers of split families are left with barely enough income to survive.

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  • Fathers should have rights
    March 28, 2014 - 18:54

    Fathers should have rights you can find us on Facebook and help us stand for what is right Thanks for everyone that showed up

  • i miss my son
    March 25, 2014 - 13:15

    the family court needs to be fixed. 50/50 should be the starting point. Take the income of both parents according to the federal guidelines and the higher income earner pays the difference to the lower. courts have to enforce 50/50. in my case after 7 years seperated and paying full child support even though we had 50/50 shared, my ex decided to make false allegations of abuse and said my son doesn't want to have anything to do with me anymore, or anyone in my whole family. She got her new boyfriend after 2 days of moving in with her to confront me about how i raise my son! He now is the one in control of my son and my ex...He is screening the calls, runs interference, tell me that i am nothing but a sperm donor. They are looking for a conflict, that I am smart enough to know is asking for trouble and avoid at all costs. Child services investigation proved nothing, her failure to show up at court.. firing her lawyer...firing the babysitter.. firing the childs counselor. no punishment to her. 314 days not seeing my son. over 15 thousand in legal costs, a parental assesment that says alienation and enstrangement are highly likely by my ex and her boyfriend, i was told by my lawyer that the judge will only do what is in the best interest of a 10 year old. Even though he has been alienated and brainwashed to think me and all his paternal family are demons. The time to get into a family court trial is months and months and those months is time i won't get back and that my son will grow farther and farther distant from us. Now how is this fair?

  • Ron Smith
    March 25, 2014 - 09:27

    I believe that the system has made it so that it is easier for some men to just walk away. That doesn't seem to be what this article is for though. This article seems to be for the men that don't want to walk away. There is nobody to police these court orders and the primary caregivers are basically free to do what they want even if it is not in the best interests of the children. I have joint custody with my children's mother, but yet I am not included or informed about most decisions that are made on their behalf. The court also seemed to believe that it would be in the best interest of the kids to impute my income at 20000 even though I haven't made over 15000 for the past 4 years. This directly affects my relationship with my children especially now that I have to taxi them back and forth where I do not have a vehicle. The justice system in Canada in general needs to be overhauled because there is a lot of prejudging taking place. I welcome Peter MacKay to tell me why he thinks it is fair or in the best interests of the children, but we all know that won't happen. Well I have to go bend over and keep taking it. My thoughts are with other fathers that don't even get to see their kids though.

  • broke_unemployed_father
    March 24, 2014 - 13:01

    What ticks me off is the mother could be a millionaire (win it, remarry into it, whatever the case) and the kids wouldn't have to worry about a thing ever again, but the law states that the father working his $11 per hour min wage job still has to pay. Yeah, real fair there, isn't it? Kids and mother are living large while the father is below the poverty line. Each case should be looked at in a case by case scenario. The one blanket law we have DOES NOT fit every case. It's biased towards men and we have years (and personal experience) of proof behind that statement.

  • angry single mom
    March 24, 2014 - 11:39

    Some people dont understand what single mothers go through.. I signed out of the MEP to try to give my kids father a chance to pay me what he can..and I have no problem with that.. I just wish he would take his kids more often.. he takes them every second Saturday cause its court ordered .,he should be a man and give me a break cause im giving him one with paying what he can.

    • jonnie
      March 25, 2014 - 10:39

      I agree with you here as a father not allowed to see his son. Im bullied and unable to see him. I was told by the mother, a child doesn't need a father. Im waiting on a court date. I resent that father for not taking advantage of you actually letting him take the kids more than the courts allowed. I know i won't be allowed to see my son outside the court ordered visitation, so kudos to you for stepping outside the order and trying to allow him more time.

    • It's Not Just Dad Who is Angry
      March 26, 2014 - 00:30

      You're right. It's not easy. I work two jobs because I can't raise two kids on the income from a single job. The father picks the younger child up for 5-6 hours one day each week. He takes care of one meal per month for the child. By the court order, he could have the kids 2 days one week, 3 days the next and every second weekend. Child support is set at $50/month. I haven't received a child support payment in over a year. ** Why do so many fathers have child access rights and not use them while others fight for parental rights and are denied?**

  • Anne
    March 24, 2014 - 11:27

    8 yrs ago this summer coming my ex and i split up, i asked him repeatedly to give me 150 a month just to help with groceries for our son.. he refused.. (he was working at waster management at the time) went to court and then was forced to pay 325 a month because he pissed the judge off and lied about bills and a lot of personal stuff in court. He deliberately got fired from his job and went on welfare.. and then didnt filed his taxes for nearly 6 yrs...anyways 2 yrs ago i got remarried.. to a wonderful man that treats my oldest son like his own.. and we also have a child together. my current husband has him on his medical just like his natural son and has been to every dr's appointment wih specailists every step of the way.. if i could get my ex to sign over his parental rights to my oldest son we would be happy but my ex won't. So there are 2 sides to every issue

  • Mary
    March 24, 2014 - 10:53

    I totally agree that the whole system needs to change, I am a single mother of 2 children and me and my ex don't get along at all. But thru the 3 years we have been split I've tried to be civil, we share 50/50 and he gives me 300$ a month and gets half the child tax! We split all cost for extra curricular activities. I've had issues with my daughter who is now 13 and doesn't go there as much because they don't get along so great, and yes want more support because he doesn't wanna take or make the effort to be a father and try and fix there relationship. I'm now going thru the court system to get full custody but it's only for her we'll being of stoping what's going on in his house. Also it's what she wants. I think fathers should have just as much right to their children as mothers do and in some cases still pay child support because some splits are different then others.. But not if it's going to take away from them supporting!!

  • Knows all to well
    March 23, 2014 - 11:59

    I also was married to a man who was paying close to 900$ a month but he was able to go to maintaince to lower the payments to the minimum which was 400$ and I still worked 12 hrs shifts for 10years, till we separated for many reasons and yes money was the main trigger. So I know all about the laws and yes it should be 50/50 and judges need to listen to both sides fairly and if mother get full custody then she should have a job when the said children are in school so that she can earn and provide for her children also. That would lower the risk for another child bc she was bored and had nothing better to do yo just take a pill and stop having babies if you have no money / get off the system

  • Dave
    March 23, 2014 - 10:40

    If a woman remarries, and then gets divorced... Will she be granted child support payment from 2 gentlemen now? If so, then why should this 2nd gentlemen be relieving some of the support whilst they are still married?

  • Dave
    March 23, 2014 - 10:37

    I strongly believe that if a woman re-marries, that new partner should be paying....I know some women highly disagree, BUT, those same women can do the exact same thing to the new partner. (Divorce them, and get 2x the support cheques for the same child.) {This is not all women} - but since it is a possibility, some people get money thrown in the picture and suddenly make all the greediest decisions, just because they can. It goes back to the term "Can't have your cake, and eat it too." Any thoughts?

    • ChildofDivorce
      March 25, 2014 - 23:56

      This is untrue. You only pay child support for your biological children. If the child was from a previous marriage/relationship and there was no legal adoption, the second husband/partner does not pay child support. I think the lesson to be learned here is not about money, child support, what the father should pay or not pay. I think the most important lesson here is that fathers should be allowed to be fathers and have equal rights in the eyes of the courts.

  • Raymond Fleck
    March 23, 2014 - 09:23

    A father is worth less than a mother....! That's how the court system made me feel... I love my kids just as much as the mother does but now I'm just a shadow in their lives!. "" What could've been will never be.!!"" I'm a loving father xoxox

  • Hard Working Loving Father
    March 22, 2014 - 19:27

    this system has to change, the father has to fight for all his rights, and that costs a lot of money, unless the father is shown to be a bad father then yes the courts should protect the courts but if you have a good parent male or female all thing should be considered even. Dads for the most part should not have to spend 25 to 30 thousand to fight for the right to spend equal time with their children, just plan wrong! Thy living without 35% of your take home pay... very hard to do.... could go on for ever about this.... TIME TO BE FAIR TO DADS

  • Terry MacNutt
    March 22, 2014 - 19:26

    Not women are exactly what they say, but the guys that pay child support barely live, or live below the poverty line and cannot get ahead. it is so unfortunate that some of us have to pay for the dead beat fathers out there.

    • michael william mac neil
      March 23, 2014 - 13:36

      Money....is money.....my identical twin girls mean everything to me.....I still have the same job after fifteen years.....and have never missed a payment......until I was hospitalized last year for two months.....mep kicked in.....then all bets were off.....20,000 braces.....private school.....

  • jen
    March 22, 2014 - 16:45

    @ peggy. Ha! your response made me laugh. That's right pass the responsibility on to the "new spouse"! You knew your husband had a child to support when you got together, you knew it would be a payment every month. You saying the new "man" should take responsibility financially- Why should the new guy suffer the expense for another man's child but you complain of the exact same thing!!! men do deserve rights as a parent but your last statement is ludicrous!!!

  • jen
    March 22, 2014 - 16:34

    @Peggy, I will disagree with you on one fact that when a woman lives with someone or remarries that in NO way should the father of those children stop supporting them. It takes a great man( or woman) to become a blended family but to say that these "new partners" should take financial responsibility is ludicrous. You make children then you support them - don't expect someone else to do it!!!! Passing the buck onto someone else in nonsense!!Any "real" father would want to support his own children rather than "hope" the new guy will do it! To think if that were the new law how many lonely single parents there would be!!

  • Jim Crouse
    March 22, 2014 - 15:21

    I'm with you fellas. Going in the hole further every month bearing the entire tax burden while my ex wife lies back in my ex house with her new man who makes more than me and I starve to pay her.

  • Jennifer
    March 22, 2014 - 14:53

    I agree that the laws about access and support are in some real need of a going over. I am a single mother of 3 children with 2 different fathers involved. With one I had to actually ARGUE with the judge that i didn't need anymore money than i was asking for. We have 50/50 custody and we split all extra expenses down the middle but because i made less money than him i was allowed to ask for more support. That is wrong but I do know that alot of women (like my current boyfriends ex) that live off child support and take a man for anything they can. It is sad in this day that a mother is so selfish. Children need happy dads and safe places to be when they are with him too...you are only hurting the your kids.

  • Neil Doucette
    March 22, 2014 - 14:51

    I agree.

  • paul w mackenzie
    March 22, 2014 - 14:13

    right on !

  • Sandra
    March 22, 2014 - 11:21

    I believe fathers have the right also, I also wish I would have had someone that wanted to be the dad and spouse he should have been, but when he leaves and pays no support, and takes hormone replacement theropy, to change into a woman, how do you tell your kids that, so if I could have had one of the 3 men in this photo as a spouse, then it would have made a difference.

  • A mom who fights for what's right
    March 22, 2014 - 11:02

    Peggy.... You have got to be kidding me!!! You seriously think that if a woman remarries then the financial responsibility of a child that was born to another man should be on the new husband????? So in other words the REAL father has to pay absolutely NOTHING for his OWN child??? Get your damn head out of your A$$! You went through a situation where your husband had a child before you met and HE had to pay and you had to work two jobs to support the child you had together ...well that my dear is called YOUR financial responsibility to provide for your child. You can't tell me that if the shoe was on the other foot and you and your husband separated that you would not go for child support. You do what's in the best interest for YOUR child. In your case I'm GLAD the mother of your step daughter went for child support..she deserves every penny! For every child born the patents have a financial.obligation to help provide and nurture that child until they become financially independent, and even after that parents are still there for their children if they need help. The amount of support paid to the guardian of a child weather it be to a single mom or dad, goes by their yearly income and by the child support guidelines. Its all done in fairness . Now if the parent who doesn't have guardianship is a deadbeat and will do whatever he/she can to get out of paying child support and facing their responsibility as a parent then yes the judge can be more harsh if they choose to. But seriously folks...weather your a mother or a father ..bottom line is this. You have a child then you HAVE TO support them financially no matter what!!!!

  • Jeremy
    March 22, 2014 - 11:01

    I agree. I make a decent wage, but after I pay my child support and bills I barely have enough to by groceries. I'm all for supporting my son, but we should have to pay an equal share.

  • David
    March 22, 2014 - 09:18

    I went through this years ago and things obviously haven't changed. What I don't get and never have is, both parents should be equally responsible for a child. When parents break up, why does one parent, majority of the time its the mother, is seen as the best parent and is awarded custody of the child. With that the father is ordered to pay unreasonable amount in child support and is limited to how often he can see his child. Don't get me wrong, a real father should always ensure their children are property taken care of and want to spend time with them, but for me that means making sure they have clothing, food, involved in sports if that's what they want to do, spend time with them, etc.. Why the father has to help pay for a home, heat, lights, etc... is just wrong as the mother would have to pay for that anyway, even if there was no child and if she can't, then why does a court think its best to place a child in that situation. I realize Dads are in this situation because of the past deadbeat fathers (not Dads) who would get women pregnant and walk away, my father did just that, by why punish the Dads out there who want and are willing to be a positive influence and part of their children's life's. Unless it can be proved that a father or mother are unfit to care for a child, they both should share equal responsibility for that child and have equal rights to access. That means, equally shared costs for care of that child and that child only. Not the Father having to help pay for the cost of a home, heat, lights a car, etc.. If the mother can't afford those things on her own, in other words she can't take care of herself let alone a child, why is it in the best interest of the child to be put in that situation. THe entire system needs to be looked at and changed as many women, and some men, are taking full advantage of the system now..

  • Nancy
    March 22, 2014 - 08:59

    Doesn't take a math wiz to figure the child support chart only requires a 7-10% monthly amount from fathers and therefore the mother's 'especially" single ones are left with at least 85%. of the child suppirt. Now these so called fathers are only looking all the more like beat dad's. If it wasn't for the monthly child tax credit most of the single mothers wouldn't even be able to feed properly, let alone clothe their children. These men who think they are right in standing up in a mindset as such is a disgrace. Lets face it; they are either are real dad's of simply sperm donors who don't want any accountability. Last but not least where's the love in these "dad's" hearts for whats more important, their child's needs rather than their big ego.

  • New to this
    March 22, 2014 - 05:48

    As an expecting mother of a man who wants nothing to do with his child, I believe these laws are best. However, being in my situation, I believe woman should appreciate more when a father wants to be actively in their child's life and be happy not to be a woman in my shoes. Separate laws should apply if you want to be a father. I know if the father of my baby wanted to be around I would drop everything to make it happen and fair. Too bad for him he decided to be a dead beat so these laws will be harsh on him. To all the men who want to love their children; I'm sorry you don't have more rights and I think your amazing. Keep working towards what you deserve.

  • missing his kids
    March 22, 2014 - 00:07

    Well I have been involved within this MEP program and yes it gets me to pay the money towards my two boys but I am at the mercy of the courts. This is because whatever they say goes and that sucks. And to find out recently that I have to continue paying my full support until my youngest turns 19. This is something that I don't quite understand that at all. So ya this system is set to help out the mothers and the fathers get the shaft its just not right

    • Terry
      March 24, 2014 - 20:32

      Missing his kids, if the courts tell you that you have to pay til your son is 19, is full of crock.My uncle pays for his daughter (23or24) pays for schooling cause she is unable to support herself yet. He got screwed over royally til she's done school cause of the mother for another 2 years.

  • duffy
    March 21, 2014 - 22:22

    Too many people are having kids and they can't afford it. Then they rely on peoples hard earned money to pay for their welfare. Cut the madness out.

  • Louise
    March 21, 2014 - 22:02

    why do fathers not have as many rights as the mothers ? The courts always seem to take the mothers side . " We" paid child support to the " ex" and hardly ever got to see the children . The court had " us" seeing them every 2nd weekend , and that was if the " ex" didn't have any other plans , but God Forbid ! if we where late with the child support payment . They say one has nothing to do with the other .. well .. guess that is right .. cuz the way I see it , as long as the " ex" gets the money it doesn't matter if the father gets to see his children . When are the courts going to make it fair , and see the other side of things , do they not realize what it is doing to the children when the full time dad is removed their lives ...... I hear often , " well they are not paying me money , why should they see their kids " I mean really ! ... I also hear , " they have no rights now , they are with me " .......... God Bless these men for standing up and bringing this issue to the public ..... I asked for nothing from my " ex" when we separated .... he got to see " HIS " children when ever he wanted .... who am I to tell " our " children they can't see their dad ? ... he provided for them , and had the extra money to do so when he had them ..... MAKE IT KNOWN ! CHILREN DESERVE BOTH PARENTS in their lives , no matter what went on between the two of you ... grow up and start being the parent instead of a over grown child yourself !

  • Been on both sides
    March 21, 2014 - 21:15

    I've seen both sides and I completely support these men in their fight for equal rights. A friend recently had 50/50 joint custody, the mother decided she wanted child support, literally walked into court said "it's not working i want them full time." And without question was granted this, he is a fantastic caring father!. He works and she does nothing but live off of the system and somehow THAT was in the children's best interest ??? Judges need to get ALL the facts straight before making these decisions. Having a father in their lives IS crucial to a child's development. There are enough deadbeats moms and dads out there so when a parent wants to actively be in their child's life they should have that option. Very disheartening to see things going this way.

  • Joel ingemansen
    March 21, 2014 - 20:37

    I fully support you and is in the same boat as you. I refuse to be dead beat dad and I have a government job that my two boys with my ex. The courts also issued my "visitations" which their mom uses that term to the fullest extent, when in fact the true story is I will do anything for my boys , it isn't right at all .....I left my ex so that I could be more of a father to them then when I was with her .....but the courts just view me as the "dad" and lucky me I got every second weekend. The courts "decide" in 20 minutes minutes of what is in the best interest of the child .....but where is the judge even 10 years after the fact that my boys every weekend say I don't want to go back I want to stay with you? As a father it breaks my heart and tries my best to be patient till they are able to voice their own option and remind them that it's okay to love mommy and when you are old enough you will be able to chose but till then every time you are with me we will make the best of it ......If there is anything I can do to support your cause I will stand behind you .....it's something I should have done along time ago !

  • Child Avocat
    March 21, 2014 - 20:31

    While I support freedom of speech, the right to peaceful protest, and equal rights for men and women, what I strongly believe in are the rights of children. The reality is children are expensive, and if the mother has custody, $600 will barely provide a child food for a month. This would be not even come close to enough to also pay for their clothing, school supplies, childcare bills, or even a roof over their little heads. While I appreciate times are tough, when you choose to have children you are also (hopefully) making a commitment to provide for them. $600/mth would not cover their basic needs let alone toys, birthdays, Christmas. Be frustrated about the economy, but blaming Moms for wanting help in raising your children is well, kind of dead beat dad -ish. Having said that, children need their fathers, and if visitation is the issue I am in full support provided his is a non-violent, drug free, alcohol free, responsible adult.

    • in a situation
      March 24, 2014 - 08:00

      So what your saying is that the mother doesn't have to pay anything a month for her own children? You say that $600 dollars a month doesn't cover expenses...that's just from the father mothers have to contribute too....We take in foster children and we do not get near $600 a month to feed and cloth them and they are in the government system so how does that make any sense?!

  • sheri
    March 21, 2014 - 20:23

    I agree with the guys. My husband went to court for shared custody (week on week off) and he ended up with every second weekend and paying $700 a month child support, babysitting etc plus any extras she decides she puts the kids in. If I didn't work we would be screwed. He always paid support even beforee it was court ordered and she always demanded more and more money or wouldn't allow him to see his kids for months at a time (at times). She works a fulltime job, gets child tax credit for two kids plus the child support from him. She makes more then we do with all of that. I fully believe if the kids live with mom or dad the other parent should pay support unless it is split custody which most cases should be. The need to share the kids and the costs but also the benefits. I have two kids and never received support for either of them but one of their dads was great and if i needed money for medicine etc he made sure i had it. I allowed my kids to come and go from their dads without a hassle (something |I can't say about my stepdaughters - there always seems to be an issue) When my husband went to court she made him seem like an irresponsible parent and herself look like mother of the year. Anyone who knows her and what she was like with her now teenage sons dad knows she certainly is not. Laws need to change and sole custody should not be given to just one parent unless the other is that bad that you wouldn't even give them a dog to look after. Your kids should come first no matter what and like someone said in a comment before some women do it for the money (support) and I believe she is one of them. I didn't realize how one sided everything was 25 years ago (but i think they gave mothers custody always then). These old judges need to go and the new ones with attitudes that fit the times need to be the ones who make the decisions. We had a judge last year that i had 25 years ago. good luck gentlemen I'm with you.

  • Nicole
    March 21, 2014 - 20:12

    Laws need to change!!!! Defentely should consider the other party's income as well as the current situation of the father's and mothers as well!!!

  • Singledad
    March 21, 2014 - 19:59

    Speaking as a man who has separated from my sons mother, and trying to make the transition as smooth as possible. If people believe that men are getting unfair treatment, you need to do your research!!! I pay extra support for my son, above what is required of me, not because I get along with my sons mother "which isn't the case". I do it because I feel the support payments are to low, have a look for yourself http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fl-df/child-enfant/fcsg-lfpae/2011/index.html a person making 40,000.00 a year only pays $570 a month for 2 children, $3420 a year. Now those of you out there with children know, your yearly expenses for a child are well over double that. Childcare alone monthly PER CHILD is $600 then add on clothes, food, toys, medical expenses, any sports they get into because when that support is paid, it is all they are legally required to pay and it is to encompass everything. SO before you get all self righteous, and defend these men do your research. Also speaking from first hand knowledge of one of the individuals, he signed over his rites to his children denied they were his, refused to pay child support until he paid to have 2 DNA tests done at $1500 to $2000 each. Then he was forced to pay support and back support, not because he didn't think they were his children. Because he wanted to make the mother of his children suffer a little more. As for peggys comment, clearly you have no children, and if you do god help them for having such a cold mother who would think that it would be exceptable for a father or a mother for that matter to not take responsibility for the child they brought into this world .

    • mr.brady
      March 26, 2014 - 13:22

      nice try single mom.

  • time for change
    March 21, 2014 - 19:09

    I just recently fell victim also. I'm a 30 year old father of 4. Thier mother cheated on me and 4 months later moved herself and my kids into his house. I now have to give her over 1250 a month. Thats over 2/3 of my pay leaving me with just under 700 a month to live on. I now can't afford to drive myself to work! Also I am still paying a mortgage for a house I can't afford to live in. My next paycheck once I pay her and my mortgage I will have $15 in my account for 2 weeks. Meanwhile between her family allowance and his income and my support they will be clearing over $5000 a month!

  • peggy
    March 21, 2014 - 17:56

    I believe fathers should have rights also . Why does the court only believe what the mother has to say. Things may not have gone right between the mom and dad , but that doesn't mean this should be held against the dad when it comes to visitation . Being married to a guy who had a daughter from his previous marriage , I know all about being left not enough to make ends meat . When we had a child " our " child and ourselves went with out while the " ex " enjoyed things we could not . I was out working two jobs just to help us survive , therefor my child went without his mom , while the ex got to stay home . I think it is about time the " judge " in the matter of family court stops listening to hear say and finds out what is really going on . The law needs to change ... yes I am a women and I am saying this ...... When a women remarries or starts living with someone else ... child support should stop ... because if the man remarries or is in a common law relationship .. they are the ones who suffer ... the man who gets in a relationship with the " women" knows they have the children therefor it should become " their " responsibility financially !!

    • Wandy
      March 22, 2014 - 06:48

      I hope you're kidding. A woman remarries, and you think the father doesn't have to take any financial responsibility for his kids going forward? That doesn't make sense. I agree with the article though; go men, go!! There are awesome fathers who really get the short end of the stick.

    • strawberry
      March 22, 2014 - 08:52

      I don't agree with that. If the child belongs to two people, that child is the responcibility of those two people. Not someone coming in after the fact. Perhaps child support shouldn't be as high as ot is, but you don't jist getout of your duties because your X married someone. That is what the alimony laws are for.

  • weekend warrior
    March 21, 2014 - 17:48

    The laws have to change! My boys live 500km away and I cant see them every weekend like I want to, On top of my $600 child support payment I have to add the cost of driving 500km every weekend which is over $100 per week, its gotten too costly for me and I have no other choice but to leave my job here and work out west. Kids need dads not visitors

  • alysha fisher
    March 21, 2014 - 17:20

    I am so proud of my husband, (man in the middle) and Shawn to the left. I see us struggling to pay my husbands child support, and it isn't fair! Something needs to be done !

  • full time single dad
    March 21, 2014 - 16:36

    Kudos to you for standing up to Policies that are as long over due as equal rights. Many years ago I had an eye opener to just how little rights men have when a friend who was expecting a child asked if I could take her to halifax for an appointment. I assumed it was a regular check up and agreed as her boyfriend was my best friend. When arriving she said just to wait in car and she would be out shortly, not a big fan of stuffy hospitals so I was good with that. A bit later when she came out she explained she couldn't drive due to comfort. Confused I brought her to the passenger side and 10 minutes into drive home she explained she just had an abortion. I was floored. How could someone do such a thing without even discussing with the father. How does the father have no say in the matter when the first thing that is used when a father doesn't want to support is "it takes two". I learned quickly that fathers rights(what we do have) only start once delivered. How absolutely ridiculous is that. I am a proud single dad, I was raised by a proud single dad and if either of my children become single parents they will also have the tools to be respectful strong role models with out the need of finger pointing and blaming.

  • Shane
    March 21, 2014 - 16:04

    Great to see Dad's The system is so backwards for fathers. I am a single dad and never seem such a system that is so one sided for the moms. I give all the dad's all the support they need. Something needs to be done.

  • mom thinks something has to change
    March 21, 2014 - 14:58

    I am a mother and i think its sad just how much money these men have to pay out to the point they can barely afford a place to live, to have a place to visit with their children or for the children to spend the night with their dad.. A small one bedroom apartment i think its just wrong.. I raised my kids with no child support don't get me wrong the kids dad paid out money when ever i couldn't afford what they needed their dad also split on anything else and my kids turned out great.. they love both me and their dad very much.. So I guess what i'm saying is GIVE DADS A BREAK...

  • mom thinks something has to change
    March 21, 2014 - 14:54

    I am a mother and i think its sad just how much money these men have to pay out to the point they can barely afford a place to live, to have a place to visit with their children or for the children to spend the night with their dad.. A small one bedroom apartment i think its just wrong.. I raised my kids with no child support don't get me wrong the kids dad paid out money when ever i couldn't afford what they needed their dad also split on anything else and my kids turned out great.. they love both me and their dad very much.. So I guess what i'm saying is GIVE DADS A BREAK...

  • Aurora
    March 21, 2014 - 14:43

    I'm confused. The text of the article describes child support issues, yet the photo (the signs) show these fathers are protesting child access rights. The issues of access and support are two different issues and are not connecting factors in family court when judges issue child custody and support orders.

    • Norwal
      March 21, 2014 - 21:39

      That's the problem they are not connected and family service and the courts (in BC) only focus on the money. I'm remarried and had more children in my household and had a lower family income yet the system wanted more out of me and my new wife. They condescendingly explained my EX needed more money for "your" children's benefit but totally disregarded the needs of the children in my house and refused to even discuss visitations. Thankfully my EX is a loving, and generous women (when it came to the money) who defended my position, much to their surprise. But visitations were pretty much use against me until the kids were teens and moved in with dad.

    • peggy
      March 21, 2014 - 23:56

      Aurora , I think the point is ... fathers are expected to pay child support , with their rights being taken away . You are right , they are not connecting factors , but should be ! why can it be the court goes after the father when he is either late with child support payments due to finance issues now that he has to pay the child support or feels it just isn't right due to the fact he doesn't get to see his children ... well maybe he does a couple of days a month ! that is if the mother doesn't change her mind on the day of visitation .... I think you are missing the point trying to be made ..... They are trying to change the way the law sees things ..... is it right that a father has to pay 600.00 a month and only gets to see their child every 2nd weekend if he is lucky ?

    • Wandy
      March 23, 2014 - 17:48

      Peggy, shouldn't men "want" to support their children; not "have" to....I find that interesting...

  • shane brolly
    March 21, 2014 - 14:36

    this is totally fair, there are alot of great dads out there and dead beat moms and in the end the amazing dad loses his kids while the mom treats them like garbage and gets all his money, rights need to be equal or atleast looked into with much more care because iv seen alot of good men lose the right to see there children.

  • Susan Andrews
    March 21, 2014 - 14:17

    That's right, they should change the whole system and take both parties money into consideration. The men have to live as well, remember the women almost always get the house and the kids and these days baby bonus and welfare is more than some people make and they work for it!!!

  • Beverly Peterson
    March 21, 2014 - 14:16

    Wish them tons of luck, they hurt the children the most. Children need rights too.

  • amom who cares
    March 21, 2014 - 13:58

    I have seen family court protect the wrong person no all fathers are dead beats.. I know of a mother whom cries wolf on a regular bases now the father has lost the right to see the children he has been the primary caregiver to. how is that fair. maybe it is time to give some fathers a chance to raise and care for their children.

  • Bandit2004
    March 21, 2014 - 11:14

    What about deadbeat Mothers? How many make the career choice to produce children just to collect welfare/child support. Time to look at the whole system and both mothers and fathers support their children, not depend on the taxpayers.

  • chief wiggam
    March 21, 2014 - 10:22

    about time...

    • syrendypidy
      March 21, 2014 - 19:03

      I think that the primary care giver be man or woman pay support if they can. Being a single mom I have struggled without much help from the dads. But I have seen dads doing the same while the moms don't help out. Not all moms are saints not all dads are sinners. I don't agree with the support stopping after remarriage or a new long relationships starts because the kid doesn't stop being your responsibility. However I do think the payments should be lowered accordingly.

    • Bee
      March 22, 2014 - 10:02

      I dont understand how the mothers are getting so much money,there is a chart that says how much of a percent of the fathers paycheck the mother gets and its not much at all