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Losing TreeGO worries chamber

Chantale Haché

Chantale Haché

Published on March 10th, 2010
Published on March 10th, 2010
Staff ~ The Truro Daily News
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Truro Daily News , TreeGO worries chamber , Truro and District Chamber of Commerce , TRURO , Victoria Park , Halifax

TRURO – The prospect of losing an aerial adventure park worries the Truro and District Chamber of Commerce.

“We simply can’t allow this opportunity to pass us by,” said president Chantale Haché. “If TreeGO sets up shop closer to Halifax rather than Truro, we risk losing even more business to communities down the highway. That prospect is unacceptable.”

The Truro Daily News reported Wednesday that the TreeGO franchisee has looked

at the alternative site the Town of Truro

identified.

It is located atop Wood Street in the Serpentine Drive area of Victoria Park. Martin Laviolette told this newspaper it was not as attractive as the previous site, which was located off of Lewis Road and included ziplines crossing the gorge near Jacob’s Ladder. Laviolette was also looking at a few sites closer to Halifax.

The chamber issued a news release on Wednesday pleading for council to find another suitable location or reconsider the first proposal.

“Ensuring TreeGO comes to Truro and not elsewhere needs to be council’s top priority in the short term,” Haché said, noting the business impact of bringing the attraction to the community.

She pointed out there has been opposition to business ventures in the past that council approved and ended up benefitting the community.

Haché said losing TreeGO could end up being a mark on the town that would discourage future potential investors.

“By default, if we are not moving forward, we are falling behind,” she explained. “We need Truro to be viewed as a progressive community that is open to change and open for business.

“Otherwise, more opportunities for growth and development could be lost.”

Town council can legally enter into an agreement to put a commercial enterprise in Victoria Park. Chief administrative officer Jim Langille told the Truro Daily News on Wednesday the town has received legal advice that it is within council’s rights to consider an operation such as TreeGO in the park.

The town would need the majority of council to vote in favour of such an agreement for it to be approved. If all seven members of council were present for such a vote, it would require four members to vote in favour.

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    TreeGo
    - March 12th, 2010 at 15:46:11

    I have noticed time and time again that some who are against this wonderful opportunity seem to be belligerent. I dont understand this. I mean, are you not suppose to be the nature loving "peaceful" ones? We are very passionate about our cause too. These comments are entertaining to say the least.

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    Treehugger
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:49:49

    There will be extra costs involved. Who gets to foot the bill for the added insurance required to have an amusement ride in the park? And don't kid yourselves - that is an amusement ride. Why has Town Council not made counter offers to Tree-Go of other locations in the town and surrounding areas? Why has Town Council not investigated other such amusement ride companies? I know that Tree-Go is not the only one to do this type of thing. Why the strong-arm tactics on the people by its elected representatives? Putting any amusement ride in that park would not be progress; it would be simply a terrible decision. The loss of Tree-Go will not put a blight on the reputation of the town as a forward-looking and viable place to live. Our Mayor has already done that very well with his Victorian attitudes regarding people's lifestyles. Saying 'no' to Tree-Go will not improve on the town's abysmal history of making bad business and property decisions. They've already got that from their myopic treatment of the old railway station, the old town council building, the old Baptist church, the old building adjacent to the former Black & Company building (now a parking lot facing John Ross & Sons across the tracks), - the list goes on. In short, any building or area in the town over which they either had direct control or could have put a bid in to preserve and enhance, they've ruined; and we've all lived to regret it. Allowing Tree-Go in Victoria Park will only make the stain larger. If Chantal Haché and the CoC are really that concerned about assisting in this issue, they can assist Town Council in finding other locations and/or other amusement ride companies with which to do business. There's little she can do about the historical precedence the town council has maintained of bad property-use decisions, but she can go a long way to prevent them from being compounded by such a misguided effort to bring such a business into the park. There's also nothing she can do about the blot on our town's reputation as a progressive partner in business that our dear Mayor has given us. However, she can avoid making the town look like a money-grubbing, 'progress at any costs', shortsighted lot by looking at all aspects of this issue beyond "the short term". That park has been with us in more or less its current state for over 100 years. We've allowed change to it but slowly, and so it has had the time to evolve into the jewel which is the envy of towns and cities around the world. To quote Russell Baker, "Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things." Allowing an amusement ride in a relatively serene and utterly beautiful natural area is a terrible thing.

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    flogger
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:19:36

    As per usual ANDERSON, your facts are skewed. Flogger is not in Stewiacke. And um, I suppose you think the so-called 20,000 people who drive by Truro will decide whether or not to enter Truro because of Tree-go?? The only attraction for Tree-go in Victoria Park is the $1 per year lease (for 10 years) that they think Truro Town Council will fall for.

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    Diane P
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:08:08

    I can't afford to take my grandson to the movies either howvever; I am not bringing him to the lobby on a regular basis and then telling him he can't go in to watch a movie. When I take my grandson to the park we spend 3-4 hours getting exercise in the outdoors and have a great time oh yeah and it's free.

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    Glen
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:07:54

    Bring more people to the downtown core! Good lord, like downtown Truro needs any more congestion. everyone talks about the need to bring people in to the downtown to help local business, but no one EVER stops to think, where are you going to put them?Ever been to Victoria park during a bigger event?, try and find a place to park. And I'm sure people will drive up and down the all too narrow Prince St looking for parking, when, after they are finished with TreeGo, they can head out to Robie St, which they pass on the way into town, to fulfill their shopping needs and hunger. Towns and cities have all kinds of hair brained ideas to bring business to "the core", but the truth is, people want to shop where it is cheaper, and drive where there is less congestion, and more parking. It wasn't just cheaper taxes that brought business to the west end of Truro. The city of Kitchener Ontario, spent 19 million dollars to build a "Downtown Farmers Market", and not even a decade later, they are looking to sell it off because it is a drain on the city. And why? because its a pain in the butt to try and get to it, and find a place to park. Not to mention, everything sold "downtown" is more expensive.

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    ANON
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:07:08

    I would rather see the park in ashes then let it be commercialized.

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    Truro Citizen
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:07:05

    UH........UH....... TREEGO SUPPORTER ..... Go buy some Land and RENT it to TREEGO .... Make Yourself You Make Money and get the TREEGO :0) Problem Solved ..

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    W Morrison
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:07:01

    I don't understand the fuss here...this is a very seasonable business that would only appeal to a very select and limited group of people and would employ only a couple of people at best and yet everyone seems to be falling all over themselves to draw them to Truro. It's unfortunate than this kind of attention couldn't have been be paid to some of the recent business failures owned by local people who have contributed to their community for generations. These people are in business to make money, let them buy the land and develope their own operations and if that happens to be somewhere other than Truro, so what?

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    Brian
    - March 12th, 2010 at 09:06:43

    With all the beautiful spots in Colchester County, why are they so determined to have it in the park? It seems like no other location will do. Personally, I would love to see this in our area but not in Victoria Park....but that does not make me a non supporter!

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    TreeGo Supporter
    - March 11th, 2010 at 13:41:20

    My understanding is that TreeGo would have a 10 year lease on about 20 acres (out of over 1000). There would be no cost to tax payers. The reasons for the desired location are simple, they suite the requirements with the least disruption to the park. The desired location is one of the busier trails in the park and therefore is not this peaceful fortress of solitude that many are claiming....I use the whole park year round and there are many far more peaceful and beautiful spots. As for the argument that locals cannot afford it I beg to differ, goto the movies and buy some snacks...you have just spent the same money you would to goto TreeGo except you are sitting in a dark room for 2 hours stuffing your face...why would you choose that over spending 3 - 4 hours getting exercise in the outdoors and having a great time. THERE ARE NO FENCED OFF AREAS, there is no need for it, visit a TreeGo park and you will understand. Moncton said there park is healthier and better cared for due to the addition of TreeGo. TreeGo will not be Truro's saviour on it's own, but it will certainly be a step towards growth that is desperately need in this community.

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    BOB A JOB
    - March 11th, 2010 at 13:17:27

    I am not opposed to Tree-Go, in fact I think it is a great idea, it would probably draw more people to Truro than the Civic Center ever would. Remember it is about the exact location they want, not the project. What is being argued here is where it goes, if it is not by Jacobs ladder would it be any less profitable? I doubt it, Tree-Go got a little upset that the people of Truro like their park and are not rolling over for them to come and take what is probably one of the biggest assets to the people of Truro. I have lived in several towns, cities, countries and even continents, there are not many that can compare to the natural beauty of the Colchester area in such a protected manner, however still allowing for those to enjoy their beauty freely. We have not seen how much rent/ taxes they expect to say, this has been quiet, I suspect that is because they will not be paying anything. This means the taxpayers will have to pick up the tab for yet another project that does not really offer many in this community. I mean honestly, how often would local residents use it? Yet we would be forced to look at it all the times, in what was a part of th epark with natural beauty, I assume it would be fenched off, it really should be. Lost to all of us except those with the $28.00 (which will promptly be sent to Quebec) to get in the compound to see the beauty again. Colchester has several places that would work for such a project, Debert, Wentworth, Nutby all jump to mind, without even begining to think of other places in the Park. Even if Tree-Go would employ locals, how many more minimum wage jobs do we need? There is no point getting bent out of shape on this one, they tried, they did not get what they want (hopefully) , the would offer little to our town to have this spot than the others they have been offered.

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    Truro Guy
    - March 11th, 2010 at 12:27:50

    Tree Go will happen in Truro if members of Town Council and Tree Go operators come to an agreement. You just read up above that the reporter called the CAO of the Town and found out that there was no agreement stated by the Mayor to keep them out of the park.Be clear, if they come to an agreement then it will happen in Victoria park and that a fact, not fiction like you are being fed so far.

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    PJ
    - March 11th, 2010 at 12:27:44

    I'm taxed out, I have no more money to give, and to think this project will not require money from the tax payer, you only have to look at the dog park and the money needed to clean up after dogs, that's right, tax dollars , this project was not to cost anything as well...

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    TreeGo Supporter
    - March 11th, 2010 at 12:27:21

    I have noticed once again that most of the people here that disagree with TreeGo are basing their arguments on assumptions and false information. But that seems to be on par with most people voicing a strong opinion against change. I really hope that town council will make a decision based on what is the best thing for the future of the town of Truro. I hope they will take the time to talk to citizens and officials in other cities that have TreeGo. I hope they will not be bullied by a bunch of yahoo afraid of any kind of change.

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    Anderson
    - March 11th, 2010 at 12:27:02

    The broader issue here is what kind of economic region we want to be. If we are not proactive in drawing people into the downtown core and away from the highway then we are saying that we want to be a highway rest stop. TreeGo's economic benefit is not found simply in the 15 summer jobs it would provide to our young people. Nor is it in the advertising and promotion that TreeGo would provide for our region. It's also found in the geographic draw away from the highway. 20,000 people who would decide each year to stop and drive into Truro rather than whiz on us on the way by to Moncton (which probably won't bother Flogger out in Stewiacke)

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    Shay
    - March 11th, 2010 at 10:27:43

    It's just an idea, but up in Greenfield just outside of Truro, there is a waterfall. I think they just call it Greenfield Falls. Anyway, it's gorgeous and since Truro is so close it would still get the business. I think that would work well.

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    BOB A JOB
    - March 11th, 2010 at 09:20:57

    The main problem here, is once you open the park to a commercial ventures, where do you stop? Some may believe that building cabins to rent to tourists would be viable, and they probably would, but do you want the park turned into a campground? Or another call center would bring more jobs to Truro, do we want it in the park? The park is not the location to allow businesses to setup, especially on the promise of a few jobs (which will probably not go to local people) and where profits are directed out of the area. It is a park, a place for the community to relax, not for outsiders to setup shop, make cash from folks trampling their way through then leaving. If it was located outside of town limits Truro would still benefit, I know people that go white water rafting in Shubenacadie make Truro the place to stay or eat if they have decided this is an activity they would like to persue. If Tree-go goes it is no real loss, they will pay no rent or taxes, employ outsiders and suck profits out of the area. If the CoC really wants to make the Park an extension of the industrial park then they should be more selective about whom they invite to exploit it.

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    flogger
    - March 11th, 2010 at 09:20:37

    Yes JON, we Truro residents do not understand things like 'economy and sustainibility'. We're complete failures and don't know anything about business. How about you? Do you pay taxes here and what kind of business do you operate by chance? As for Ms. Hache, I wonder what part of the country you are from? I would suggest that if you grew up and were raised in Truro that you might have a little more compassion for our Victoria Park. Your job and the mandate of the CoC is to attract business to our area at any cost. If you want to prove your worth, try finding your 'potential member Tree-go', a nice little spot outside of the boundaries of our park. I would bet that they won't be a member of CoC for very long if they don't get a free ride off a $1 per year lease for 10 years for use of the land inside of Victoria Park.

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      Keri
      - March 11th, 2010 at 12:27:09

      What do you mean" do you pay taxes"? Are you saying only home owners are tax payers? Also are you saying that people that do not own property are not as important as those who do? I have heard this alot during this fight over Treego and I would really like for Flogger to explain "tax payers"

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    Town Citizen
    - March 11th, 2010 at 08:52:24

    BOB A JOB ... YOU SAID IT BEST .... THANK -YOU !!!!!

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    Mom1st
    - March 11th, 2010 at 08:52:22

    Its clear to me that Bob has not been to the site in Moncton, if he had he would have been well educated on the fact that TreeGO in way damages the trees and in act takes great care in preserving the trees, after all that is their livelyhood. Also Ms Hache has nothing to gain from this , only the community. She is correct in saying that we DO NOT want anther town to get the location as we will loose in profit and it will be someone else's profit. Come on people and open your eyes, please take the time to check out the other sites before giving your opinion, we have alot to benifit from this!

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    Jon
    - March 11th, 2010 at 08:42:58

    Like it or not, the CoC is correct. Most residents of Truro don't understand things like economy and sustainability. Truro stands to lose out and it's about time they get what's coming to them. Remember, less business means more taxes out of your pocket.

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    Enoch
    - March 11th, 2010 at 08:03:30

    I agree 100%!

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    NotShocked
    - March 11th, 2010 at 08:00:21

    I am disappointed at the decision of the town council to reject TreeGO. And I understand their motivation. But is it really necessary for Truro and District Chamber of Commerce to move ahead like spoiled members of the community looking to find a way to intimidate their neighbors? Is the Truro and District Chamber of Commerce considering whats best for the community or just reaching out for a few more dollars. TreeGO..No TreeGO as a visitor I would still stay at the super 8 (for value) and I would still go to Robie st for fast food. DownTown Truro has NOTHING for young couples. or young families.

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    BOB A JOB
    - March 11th, 2010 at 08:00:06

    Ms Haché: I am sure once he has sewn up this juicy deal he would be able to secure you a good deal on London bridge. Well if you are sucked in by his lines to believe he has to have that location, I am sure you believe in the bridge deal too! There is no reason for it to be in that location. Tree-Go will bring little to Truro, a few jobs (which would probably go to folks who relocate from New Brunswick while this venture is a go.) until the fad wears off or the woods are worn out, maybe the latter. Profits will not be plowed back into Truro, there is no point bending over backwards to attract this flawed model. It will do little for Truro, if it is such a good attraction as they claim they can setup shop anywhere they like and folks will come in droves. Wentworth needs you Tree-Go so go! Maybe they should pick Wentworth, seems to make more sense, we can sell ALL the folks it will lure some gas & coffee to get there.

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